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CNN Doesn’t Need To Fire Erick Erickson For Stupid ‘Vagina’ Comment


Like many, CNN contributor Erick Erickson said something really stupid recently. During the DNC, the Red State editor-in-chief tweeted, “First night of the Vagina Monologues in Charlotte going as expected.” Naturally, people got upset and he looked like a jealous, misogynistic coward. Less than an hour later, he issued a public apology, stating, “My apologies to those offended by my tweet. Wasn’t my intention.”

“Sorry” didn’t cut it for a lot of people, and women’s group UltraViolet headlined a campaign to get him banned from CNN. The petition has received more than 100,000 signatures, and while he definitely needed to be held accountable for his words, pushing to fire him is extreme and a waste of everyone’s energy.

We’ve heard a lot of dumb remarks the past few weeks, and we can expect to hear many more as the election nears. Late last month, former Yahoo! News Washington bureau chief David Chalian lost his job for saying GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney would be “happy to have a party when black people drown” in Hurricane Isaac. Chalian was justly ousted and shamed, as he held a tremendous position of power.

Erickson, on the other hand, is a CNN contributor, not a man running a major international non-partisan news site. As pointed out by Salon, the network brought Erickson on board even after he dubbed then-Supreme Court Justice David Souter a “goat f-cking child molester” in 2009, so clearly they haven’t always been super concerned with him making wildly inappropriate comments.

It was the right thing to do for Erickson to swiftly apologize, and while I resent that he found it necessary to mock women during the big event, I think it’s important for everyone else to move on already. There will be plenty more ridiculous statements to dwell upon in the coming months. Stop fixating on this one.

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  • http://twitter.com/MelissaH128 MelissaH

    No. Because if this sort of thing is tolerated, more people will do it and just say “Oh, I’m sorry!” and carry on. It’s not acceptable behavior from anyone no matter what their job. Period. End of story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    Wasn’t that same word uttered at the DNC convention? “Vagina” seemed to be the main topic at the convention.

    Of course, God and Jerusalem were absent until Christians, Catholics and Jews complained. At which time, it took three votes,( although it was a 50-50 split,) to add them back in.

    Only then, did the speakers use the word God (and My Obama favorite) Providence in their speeches. I’m pretty sure, if there had not been this contention, you would not have heard them mentioned.

  • Anonymous

    Mysogyn is HATEFUL gender-based attacks. Vagina is a part of the female anatomy, and in this case refers to a popular play. I don’t see how it’s hateful. Rude, maybe. If we start equating the use of vagina with the c-word and even slut, then you’re taking out the ‘hate’ of it, which is the part that really matters Also, didn’t folks actually protest in vagina costumes? If so, how is his comment even rude, really?

  • Anonymous

    If you can be fired for being rude, then no one is going to have a job in the media or blogsphere. Don’t you worry that if EVERYTHING is elevated to an ‘outrage’, then you diminish acts truly outrageous and hateful as well.

  • http://www.FiveFeetOfFury.com/ Kathy Shaidle

    I Louis CK tweeted it, you’d all think it was brilliant.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not so sure, but, either way, I don’t buy the underlying assumption of your comment– that this would indicate a hypocritical double standard. It does make a difference who says it. You read it differently. If it comes from someone whom you understand to be an ally, you give them the benefit of the doubt, take it with a grain of salt. When it’s said by someone who is an opponent, it comes across as dismissive and belittling.

    Similarly, if someone within my family makes a joke about our family, it can be much different than someone outside the family making the same joke. You might be a good deal more defensive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ideawoman2 Donna Green

    When Roland Martin made what was considered a homophobic comment, he was kicked o the curb for a couple of months. When negative comments are made against women, we should laugh and accept his sorry apology….NOT!

  • http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/ CyberForce

    CNN is trying to be more like FAUX, so they need people like Erickson.

  • Anonymous

    Get a sense of humor.

  • Anonymous

    They shouldn’t have hired the dumb [insert obscene slang for vagina] in the first place.

  • Anonymous

    if vagina is a hateful gender slur, a lot of health classes are going to be in trouble….

  • Anonymous

    is it the medical terminology or the play reference, I simply must know if we should ban the word vagina and penis from our vocabulary now…

  • http://twitter.com/MelissaH128 MelissaH

    It’s not the word. It’s the misogyny behind the comment.

  • http://twitter.com/christopherburd Christopher Burd

    Let me explain the joke. The Vagina Monologues is a play by Eve Ensler that is widely considered to be a tired piece of political theatre aimed at self-congratulatory, complacent middle-class progressives. Many people (often the same people) consider the Democratic National Convention to be
    a tired piece of political theatre aimed at self-congratulatory, complacent middle-class progressives.

    See, Erickson was making a surprising comparison between two superficially different things. It’s funny.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    I don’t see how this could be considered even remotely offensive. We all the know the Vagina Monologues. If anything it’s an overused joke from several years ago. Not very original.

  • Anonymous

    “First night of the Vagina Monologues in Charlotte going as expected.”

    LOL – that’s brilliant. One of the funnier lines I’ve heard from either convention. And you know WHY it’s perfectly acceptable? Because of what Christopher explains right above, since his post totally nails it. Gven that Erickson was speaking from the political Right, where he is expected to have a particular viewpoint…and given that the DNC’s WAS flat-out obsessed with vaginas, trying to not only use abortion as a political wedge issue but also by giving someone like Sandra Fluke a prime time speech…for Erickson to use that self-same topic and to flip it on its head, in order to make a cutting remark from the opposing side of the political aisle, is perfectly acceptable in terms of punditry.

    The only reason the Left or Liberal women are upset is because the comment was
    a bulls-eye in describing the opening day of DNC convention. Again, for all of the reasons that Christopher outlined above, so congrats to him for a great post.

  • Linda Perry

    Rick Sanchez was fired. Roland Martin was suspended. Octavia Nisr was fired using her own twitter account.

    Eric Erickson has said many things and CNN knew it and hired him anyway. They should can him or they will continue to have issues.

  • Anonymous

    Almost as bad as forgetting to THANK the troops. After all he wants be Commander in Chief.

  • Anonymous

    “Let me explain the joke.” when you have to explain it, you have lost, and it is not funny

    this guy is a d$%k, and I change the channel every time I hear his voice, I doubt I am the only one

  • http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/ CyberForce

    Oh but let’s not forget:

    Michigan Rep. Censored For Use Of ‘V-Word’

    LANSING (WWJ) – A West Bloomfield state representative has been censored for comments she made during a House of Representatives session.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s greta with her boycott?

  • Anonymous

    Where’s greta with her boycott? I forgot,
    she’s ok with it as long as it’s from the
    right.

  • Anonymous

    BS. Don’t lie about things that are easily vetted. “God
    Bless America” was repeatedly stated by speakers at the DNC before the
    Dems kowtowed to the God and Jerusalem on the platform crap. God doesn’t belong
    in politics and Jerusalem is none of our business. And there was no 50-50
    split. Just some Dems with no spines to stand up for what was right.

  • Anonymous

    I’m as liberal and as far left to the spectrum as one can imagine, and, I’m a woman, and I wasn’t offended. Frankly, to hear a conservative use the perfectly acceptable term “vagina” for a woman’s sexual organ in a general, slightly irreverent way, and not as a slur against a particular feminist, is refreshing and delightful. It means we’re succeeding: the less conservatives are able to say “vagina” without blushing, the better.

    And, another thing: the only reason the DNC Convention is focusing on “vagina dialogues” this year is because conservatives have been so relentlessly focused on vaginas and wombs over the past five: thousands of proposed laws restricting abortion and forcing women to undergo invasive sonograms, attempts to unfund Planned Parenthood, and even talk, from time to time, that contraception should be under the jurisdiction of individual states, and that they would ban it at the state level, if they could.

  • Anonymous

    Melissa, I respectfully disagree. It wasn’t directed at a particular person, and frankly, I think the Vagina Monologues are a good thing, and if the DNC were hosting a production at the convention, I’d say “Good for them!”

    The more adult people are able to say “vagina,” “penis,” “cliterus,” “scrotum,” without shame and without tittering behind their hands, the less we’re going to hear “c**t” shouted into our face.

  • Anonymous

    No, I think “killed the bastard Osama Bin Laden,” “stabilized the economy,” “saved GM and the auto industry,” “paid his fair share of taxes,” might have been mentioned 1-2 times more. But, vaginas were a close second, as in “keep your grubby government plans out of my vagina…or was it womb?”

    Thanks for reminding us just what a truly fabulous convention it was.

  • Adam R. Charpentier

    He has an ass crack under his face.

  • Anonymous

    Why don’t women of the left ever get upset with Bill Maher? Is it that you don’t care that he call’s Palin a c*unt because you think she is one too? How about Ed Schultz calling nationally syndicated radio host, Laura Ingraham, a Talk Sl*t. I don’t remember the feminist trying to sign a petition and get Schultz off the air. And let’s not forget Bill Clinton, you want to talk about a misogynist – dictionary definition. Your faux outrage only when it involves conservatives is pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    The best reason for CNN to fire Erick Erickson would be “being Erick Erickson”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    Yeah, a one-week suspension for Ed was about right and he took it like a man and gave a sincere apology directly to Laura and then on his show before his suspension. What about Roland Martin’s silly soccer tweet? I guess that wasn’t okay either. Hmmm…

    Look, EWE was just trying to be smarmy and edgy and witty and all that he usually isn’t. He’s a pretty smart guy, but he’s never going to be a corporate face by tweeting when he’s obviously drunk or high. I mean, Howard Stern? Yeah, okay. Billy Maher? Yeah, we expect that. But I think EWE knew he was just still steaming because of the weak show that the RNC put on. That might be something more appropriate to say under your breath smokin’ some stogies with the boys over a couple of scotches, but… and correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there’s any way in hell he would say that if Sarah Palin, Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, and Greta Van Whatshername went back-to-back-to-back-to-back on Fox.
    I love the word and I’m fine with it either way, but be sure to keep all of the whining and gnashing of teeth to yourself when the door swings the other way. I want to hear the word a dozen times a day, in any context. The V is a great thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    It wasn’t that bad, just lame. If it was the #3 one-liner in a boom-boom-boom three-fer, I’d give him some kudos. But it’s like he was sitting on that one to copy and paste from his notes on his phone once the liquor kicked in.

    I’d buy the next round though just to see Malkin’s face when she’s following Bill Maher’s tweets and he says “something-something-something-horseface-Philipino-girl-two-dollah”. Malin and Hannity would have the 9 women who comprise the “Million Moms” all in a rage spamming and boycotting the NBA on ABC and the DNC and the PGA, even though Maher’s on HBO. But the rage all of those “Moms” along with Malkin and her BGF (best girlfriend) would be hilarious for about an hour.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    Right. We got that part, too. What was it OJ called Howard Cossell way back when… “Howard, you’re the master of the obvious.” Eric telegraphed and too cutesy but ended up flat and lame. Hey, it’s tough doing stand-up. He better keep his day job and add more substance and less snark. People are looking for real answers over the next 8 weeks. Definitely wasn’t edgy. I’ll bank my “justifiable anger” on that one as a chit when I say the F-bomb at the beginning and end of a sentence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    She’s crying bc her girlfriend Sarah did a show on Fox that actually gets ratings (Bill-O) and not hers.

    When is the last time Greta’s face actually showed an expression? That reminds me, I need move funds from money market into securities until the EOQ3. Anybody know who the manufacturer of Botox is right off hand? Sarah and Greta must be buying that stuff by the shipping container on the boat from Dubai or Hong Kong. Gotta be some upside.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    Hopefully he’s bleaching as recommended. Oops, I forgot all of the righteous indignation about bleaching being last week for “what’s his name, biggs?” who’s doing voice-over for animation on Nick. I hate whiners. Wait, sorry, I HATE no one. I hate whining. Oh, and hypocrisy and fake-outrage. lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    I agree that Roland said was silly, not offensive. We say the same thing directly to a friend who plays in an adult rec league chasing the ball around and kicking it. The he gives it back about us playing golf and how it;s not a sport. So I say that I’m sorry I hurt his feeling for insinuating that he’s gay just because he plays a gay sport, and he says “F.U.” and then I buy him a beer and we all laugh. But then we remember how Roland got thrown under the bus, and all we can say is, “Glad none of us work at that alphabet channel no one has watched since Ted Turner was sitting with Jane in the stands, doing the tomahawk.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    Waah waah waah. Vagina Vageena Va-Gina VaJima VJ GinnySue VaJayJay Vadge

    See, I love me some snatch. I just hate whenever I encounter a GOP dweed with his little portable ultrasound in his pocket and a stethoscope around his neck trying to play doc. I know a real doc when I talk to one, and those baggers are no docs. Stay out all my VJ’s out there. That’s the only way you’ll get a sniff at one is to legislate it, baggers. lol MY condolences, Cindy. O’Reilley slapped Sarah Lou around a little tonight. Too bad that “4-second” delay she cried about for 6 months last time she was on his show is really about 10 milliseconds on a cloudy day. wanker

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    No, keep him on. He’s absolutely KILLING in the ratings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pokeen-Djibouti/1356099005 Pokeen Djibouti

    Erick, you keep putting 2 spoonfuls of gravy on everything you suck down and you’re going to have to get a lap-band like Rushbo did, Slim. Either that or retire those 16 1/2 inch sized collar shirts and go to a 19 so you can breathe there, Chubbster. And I guess it’s pretty obvious that Mister Limbaugh ate his way “out” of his.

    Or maybe having sex with Dominican 14-yr old boys makes Rush’s face swell up so much. If that’s the case, carry on with the gravy, E-dog, but stay off Rushbo’s fantasy island, EWE. EEEE-YEWWWWW.

  • Paul Henry Borg

    Did not that feminist Naomi Wolf argue in her most recent book, “Vagina, a new biography” that the vagina is part of every woman’s brain?. So why the outrage?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t get it. What’s the problem?

  • Anonymous

    Yes it is, except when politicized.

  • Anonymous

    That was a formal setting, apples and oranges.

  • http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/ CyberForce

    If anything a legislator should have more freedom to use the language they choose to in the setting of the legislature.

    So yes, it’s apples and oranges.

  • Diplome

    Eric Erickson, the fellow with the website , RedState, that wants nothing to do with facts and will now ban people who link to any fact checking source. I’ll stay amused.

  • http://twitter.com/christopherburd Christopher Burd

    I’ve nothing to say in response, but you’ve this old German joke, right?

    Tell a joke to a lieutenant, and he laughs. Tell a joke to a major, he laughs twice, when you tell it, and when he understands it. Tell a joke to a general, he laughs three times, when you tell it, when you explain it to him, and when he understands it.

  • Anonymous

    Usually a legislative setting is supposed to be a little dignified. If the lady was ranting about vaginas, that’s pretty ignorant. Kids are in there watching the proceedings, etc. My guess is she was trying for shock value, kind of like the sluts vote people, etc.

  • Anonymous

    He should stay home, exercise and eat less. TOO MANY OVERWEIGHT POLITICIANS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/octavia.hayes.522 Octavia Hayes

    Mitt Romney would be “happy to have a party when black people drown” in Hurricane Isaac. Chalian was justly ousted and shamed, as he held a tremendous position of power.

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