Lena Dunham is talented and has a very distinct point of view.  I can’t get behind hating on the show because of nepotism.  Celebrity kids are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.  We’d hate them for sitting around doing nothing and partying, but we hate them for having goals, ambitions and trying to establish themselves in their respective careers.  I’m bothered more by the fact that on a show set in NYC there are only white “girls”. 

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I agree that she is very talented as well as a great writer. I actually love the show as well, it’s just that my support for it is slightly hindered by the fact that all of its main cast members are children of famous folks. I, too agree that there should be more women of color on the show. Thanks for your input!

Eh, if you are doing a show about how hard t is to make your own way and whine incessantly about having to REALLY struggle just to make it…and then cast a bunch of vapid born-with-the-silver-and-diamond-encrusted-spoons-in their-mouths-whiners you just might have a bit of a credibility problem… For a show heralded as being so REAL, I can’t get over how false everything felt.  PS — If young women really are THIS stupid, then I have been giving you all far to much credit for years upon years…

I hear ya! Although I don’t think the girls are unintelligent or vapid. But you simply cannot ignore the fact that it’s ridiculous to cast a bunch of privileged girls as struggling 20-somethings. 

I don’t know if it’s bitter but I think it’s not the way to watch television or consume any product of pop culture. Why should their backgrounds color your view of the show? Should they only be able to do a female Entourage? And would it have been okay if one of them was from a normal middle class family in real life? Is it ridiculous to cast heterosexuals as homosexuals and vice versa?

I’m just saying that the message doesn’t feel as real given the way they got to the top. It’s almost insulting to cast them in roles as struggling twenty-somethings.

 So are you opposed to Gwyneth Paltrow, Sophia Coppola, Jennifer Aniston, Jamie Lee Curtis, Kate Hudson, Rashida Jones, Maya Rudolph, Amber Tamblyn being cast in any role they’ve played?  Part of acting is being someone you aren’t.  I just think this argument is invalid.

It’s called acting. Would you gripe if they hired actresses with hard scrabble backgrounds to play privileged girls? My guess is that you’d somehow praise them for their acting chops.

Agreed. They may have the connections, but if any of them were truly horrible – they wouldn’t make it.

It’s only nepotism if the family connections relate directly to the job. Being daughters of an artist, a playwright, a drummer and a newscaster, none of whom have direct ties to the show, hardly counts as nepotism. On the flip side, we’re all influenced by our parents’ choices. By the author’s own logic, being a professional blogger and the daughter of techies would be nepotism.

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What bothers people is not that these girls don’t deserve to be on a tv show–what bothers people (and me) is that its a show about struggling in new york when none of the actresses have had to struggle in real life so at the end of the day it all rings smelly false. So the dissonance for people is the lack of realism which is what the critics think is so great about the show in the first place. If Lena was making a show about any other subject matter, it wouldn’t receive such harsh criticism because she wouldn’t be seen as a hypocrite and people would focus on her talents. 

The show is pretty unwatchable, but women are (understandably) so starved to see a reflection of themselves and their lives on television, shit like Sex and the City can become a hit and a cultural phenomenon just because nothing else fills that void.  They’re always “Barbie: The Series”, about wealthy spoiled idiots and their fantastic lives.  IMAGINE how well a show of quality about women’s lives might be?  Not single-mom homicide cops, not a twiggy lawyer who thinks hooker skirts are appropriate courtroom attire and her imbecile friends, but a real comedy/drama about actual women. 

I’m asking too much.

Specifically about Girls, the characters are annoying, the lead/creator/writer is fucking terrible in her role as writer and star, and the entire enterprise seems to have been forced into existence by Judd Fucking Apatow, who must be related to, indebted to or in the sway of someone connected to Lena Dunham to have ever backed this project.  HBO’s track record is spotty at best, and there seem to be two HBOs in operation at any given time.  One HBO greenlights things like The Sopranos, Game of Thrones and Game Change.  The other HBO okays projects like Real Sex Umpteen, Sex in the City, Hung, Californication and Girls.  Utter tripe. 

Paying for HBO is more like subscribing to a set of encyclopedias that arrive one volume per month, but every illustration depicts a nude woman performing a sex act and most of the entries have been written by children and prison inmates. 

I don’t have a problem with the show being about four Caucasian women.  If I take a look at the cafeteria of my law school, there are usually separate groups of blacks, hispanics, and Caucasians, plus one Asian tossed in for good measure.  It’s only natural that this would be reflected in fictional media.  And last time I checked, “Two and a Half Men,” “GCB,”  and countless other shows featured casts that are predominantly filled with Caucasians.  

That being said, with all the actors in NYC who are supposedly waiting tables and delivering FedEx packages, the fact that this show could only be made with the scions of glitterati is troubling.    

This repeated argument is ridiculous. You have to have been born into a particular part of society to act that part? That’s just absurd. 
Also, the parents aren’t that famous and none of the parents are actors. I’d never heard of two of them.

 You are write.  Very good writer and director.  There are no such things as celebrities.  There are just people that we obsess over.  If they are hard working that’s enough for me.  Talent is relative, but shows that don’t illustrate the struggle to reach brilliance, betterment or harmonic perfection are a waste of time.  I’m not saying this is “Girls”, but knowing that no minority characters exist unless they are blindly crazy and nonsensical – that is the type of show that bores the bejesus out of me.  If we want a great show that includes many people, more people of different hues and creeds need to be represented in an equal amount.

*You are right.  Slipped into moron mode for a sec