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Dumb article. First of all, your silly humiliation was a prank – it is not and could never be equated with a brutal homophobic assault. He forcibly cut the the guy’s hair purely because he was different; your complaint is trivial in comparison, no matter how red your face was afterwards. As for your larger point, that may well be, however it is not unreasonable to cast aspersions about Romney’s character based on his past actions, even if they amount only to “that guy was a jerk back then”. Especially so when he’s not even owned up to the crime (yes, a crime) that several people have validated.

If Timmy and a gang of his friends had forced you to the ground while Timmy used a weapon to cut your hair, you might feel differently.

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“But as a young adult more than a decade later, I recognize that the guy
who orchestrated the mean prank was just a child when he formulated the
idea.”

Laura Donovan should tell parents of gay kids who have killed themselves due to bullying that the bullies that drove them to their death were “just a child.”

Nicely said, and I completely agree. All of us were dumb teenagers at one point, but not all of us would ever choose to use our cronies to hurt someone else just for being different. This act shows that Romney has *never* been able to understand or sympathize with anyone not exactly of his ilk, and the fact that he’s not even grown-up enough to admit he remembers it and apologize just proves what a sleaze he is.

Fair enough but he can certainly be judged by the way he deals with it today and his initial response was to claim that he had no memory of an event several others remember vividly and with haunting regret.  And while I take his apology at its word wouldn’t it have been a lovely opportunity to use the occasion to speak out against gay bullying….. but a man who can’t have an openly gay staff member who is an expert in his field certainly can’t admonish gay bullies can he?

Ms Donovan – You can’t be freakin serious in comparing these two incidents. Or are you?  Obviously you don’t have a clue as to the true meaning of bullying.  

Romney’s act is/was reprehensible.  

Having a piece of paper stuck on your back – harmless.

You just don’t get it so I am surprised that Mr. Abrams even let this idiotic excuse for a column pass the laugh test.

You are very lucky to have reached young adulthood and to have the perspective that you do about your biology class incident.  Many gay teens (and many more teens labeled “different,” “wrong,” or “other”) are not so lucky.  And extrapolating your experience onto those whose bullying has or could have had more dire or lasting consequences feels insensitive.
Bullying incidents do not exist in a vacuum.  They exist in a context of hate and fear-mongering in the media and in the law.  And in society, “That’s so gay,” and “That’s so lame,” are still common expressions, even among educated adults.
Saying that the bully is just a child doesn’t make it hurt or matter less.  I believe strongly in the power of forgiveness and healing.  But for many, they never get the chance to get that far.  It feels far more permanent.  It feels as though no one will ever care.

As for Romney, the incident you describe is not simply bullying, it is assault and battery.

 A weapon to cut his hair? Wow! Liberals are such weanies.

Jesus Christ. And Tomorrow WAPO will report Romney chained a young black man to the back of his limo and drove the poor kid over gravel for miles.

Enough of this crap. Even if it’s true, I’m not gunna waste one GD second worrying about it.

What? Am I ALSO supposed to lose sleep over Obama snorting the yay when he was a young man. OMG! OUR PRESIDENT IS A COKE HEAD!!!!

Welcome to American Politics: If It’s a Superficial Issue, then it’s THE issue!!!

Thanks for your input. I do agree my bullying wasn’t as bad, but I’m not the focus here. We should not be dwelling on a 40+ year old incident.

it’s relevant because Romney still shows evidence of being a control freak and a bully who can’t stand anything he deems”out of place” in “his” world

Hello! I recognize that these were completely different incidences, but none of us can be sure whether Romney targeted him for being gay or not. It’s absolutely awful if that was the case, but my point is that this took place more than 40 years ago. Tell me, why should it matter now?

Hi Lisa, Do you believe he is still that way? 

He was held down, screaming and his hair was cut off. Romney planned it and got a group to help him, but Romney doesn’t remember it, but if he did, he didn’t know that the kid was gay. He doesn’t remember doing this to another human being. That’s what bothers me most. He doesn’t remember. That day didn’t etch into his memory the way that it did his victim and those that witnessed what happened. He can’t remember all the “pranks” that he pulled. This was a prank? He doesn’t remember all the pranks but he knows that he’s sorry for some of them. I wonder which ones that he remembers that he’s sorry for if this one didn’t remain. 

I agree with you that I’m lucky to have reached adulthood unlike those who were tormented to death. Let me just ask you this: Are all bullies inherently evil? 

And what about straight kids — like Phoebe Prince — who killed themselves due to bullying? Does she count in this mix? 

I agree it was mean of Romney to do, but my point is that it was in the 60s. Time to move on. Show me a boy who says he wasn’t bullied at some point and I will show you a liar.

How can you prove this was a “homophobic assault”? Maybe Romney was just a jerk who didn’t like people who dressed differently. Sure the guy had been previously bullied for supposedly being gay, but how do you know Romney was one of the harassers? This story tells me that Romney didn’t like the way the kid dressed. Perhaps Romney wanted everyone to be as well groomed as he was. Unfortunately, many people do not have that option. This young man probably didn’t want to emulate Romney and his buttoned up friends. He did not deserve to be harassed. In the end, we can never know whether this was a hate crime or not

Yeah clearly he doesn’t care :( 

Tying a dog named Seamus to the top of his car while vacationing
Saying that he is not worried about the poor because they have a safety net
Giving a boy a haicut, against his will, and apologing for it, yet not remembering (Sleazebag syndrom or just plain heartless or both
Not recogizining the value of woman in our workforce
Crawling back to Trump for his endorsement
Switching Party affiliationtions, because of percieved advatages -(self serving, not because of patriotic reasons
etc, etc…
Tries to make associations between himself and Reagan
Why can’t you see it GOP, or are you going to keep giving this sleaze a kitchen pass just to beat Obama. I use to respect you, didn’t like you, but respected you at least. As wlking tall woud say, you learned to crawl. 
 

Tying a dog named Seamus to the top of his car while vacationing
Saying that he is not worried about the poor because they have a safety net
Giving a boy a haicut, against his will, and apologing for it, yet not remembering (Sleazebag syndrom or just plain heartless or both
Not recogizining the value of woman in our workforce
Crawling back to Trump for his endorsement
Switching Party affiliationtions, because of percieved advatages -(self serving, not because of patriotic reasons
etc, etc…
Tries to make associations between himself and Reagan
Why can’t you see it GOP, or are you going to keep giving this sleaze a kitchen pass just to beat Obama. I use to respect you, didn’t like you, but respected you at least. As wlking tall woud say, you learned to crawl. 
 

Tying a dog named Seamus to the top of his car while vacationing
Saying that he is not worried about the poor because they have a safety net
Giving a boy a haicut, against his will, and apologing for it, yet not remembering (Sleazebag syndrom or just plain heartless or both
Not recogizining the value of woman in our workforce
Crawling back to Trump for his endorsement
Switching Party affiliationtions, because of percieved advatages -(self serving, not because of patriotic reasons
etc, etc…
Tries to make associations between himself and Reagan
Why can’t you see it GOP, or are you going to keep giving this sleaze a kitchen pass just to beat Obama. I use to respect you, didn’t like you, but respected you at least. As wlking tall woud say, you learned to crawl. 
 

PREDICTION-ROMNEY WILL BE BOOED OUT, AT HIS TOWNHALL MEETINGS, AND WHEREVER HE GOES, HENCEFORTH. THE DEMOCRATS DON’T LIKE HIM, THE REPUBLICANS DEPISE HIM, AND THE MORMANS ONLY ACCEPT HIM AS ONE OF THEIR OWN.

no; but all bullying is harmful.  some more harmful than others. some merely desensitizes its targets, some threatens its targets lives and health.

 yes, I do.

 watch the debates again. watch how he handles the questions. “you asked me this question, but I want to answer the question i want” watch how he got testy & confrontational w/Perry.

His idea of a “humorous incident” about his father was about his campaign trying to manage a parade where a song was played that might tend to remind voters he had recently closed a factory.

He attends a campaign event & offers a petty insult to the host over some cookies.

He belittles the ideas of people who oppose them, then turns around and claims those ideas as if they were his own.

This is a man who does not like being challenged. Who either enjoys making people feel small, or does not care if he does.

 yes, she counts. so do disabled kids, poor kids, neuroatypical kids, geeky boys, girls who are bullied for being good at math yes they all count.

we all count.

Yes, everyone counts.

 Exactly. Homophobic bullying is popular in schools right now because homophobia is popular among certain groups of adults…

How do you know it was a brutal homophobic assault. Did the kid ever admit to being gay? No. You’re just another hater in a long line of haters.

Romney puts dog on the roof of his car. Obama puts dog on the roof of his mouth. And you worry about Romney?

 Yes because no one has ever been hurt by scissors; that’s why no one ever tells kids not run with them. It is clearly a matter of opinion whether or not something is sharp and made of metal.

 It doesn’t matter if homosexuality even occurred to anyone involved. It was an attack on a boy with long hair because he looked different, the hate targeted at men who look and act ‘feminine’ and the hostilities towards unconventional masculinity are still very much relevant whether or not they were identified by name by the perpetrators.

Even if you don’t think actions in his late teens* are a demonstration of his character, it is hugely relevant how he views the incident now. To make light of “hi-jinks” that, according to the piece you cited, terrified and drove a boy a year younger than him out of school says a lot about Romney’s ideas about power and responsibility.

*also from the article you cited, he enrolled in the school at age 12 in 1959, which means he was at least 17 in 1965 when the incident happened. That is old enough to know how ones actions can hurt people.

Here it is in a nutshell.  Yes it happened when he was a teenager.  But  it was an assault.  Anytime you have a pair a scissors in your hands and having people hold him down so you can cut his hair shows to his character.  That really is what it is.  It just speaks to his character.  Plus the same thing when he let the blind teach bump into the door.  Its character.  To me he is showing how he feels entitled to do what he wants.

Bet you, Laura, would “remember” your “bullying” experience quite differently if your tormentor had enlisted a group of friends to hold you down and cut off your hair?  Would you be so quick to “forgive” it as a childish prank?  Am I correct that such an event would have traumatized you a bit more that a “kick me” note?  Pls feel free to answer. …?

 No it doesn’t. No one is the person they were 50 years ago. For pete’s sake I’m not the person I was 10 years ago. Thank God. Teenagers always have always done stupid, selfish, mean stuff. They’re still doing, selfish, shallow, stupid, mean stuff and they’ll always be doing stupid, selfish, shallow means stuff. If they are still doing it 10 years later? Then you can start worrying.

I was reading where he bullied this man who wanted to save $59 million dollars for Utah for the Olympics and he threatened the man telling him he didn’t know who is was dealing with.  Mittens overspent on that Olympics. By the way one of his friends said he was lying. Everyone remembered that situation because it was a small school. He said you don’t forget something like that. Again I agree you think differently when you are young but again it goes to character. He has asked friends to come forward to defend him. So far none have. What does that say.

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Where did I say, or even imply that all bullies are evil?  Honestly curious where you found that one in my comment.

I don’t believe people can be evil (see above for my thoughts on forgiveness, etc.) but I do believe behavior can be.  And as a person who proudly shares community with LGBT folks (of all stripes), as well as numbers of other people who have marginalized and picked on, I personally feel that this behavior is not acceptable.  It wasn’t okay then, it isn’t okay now.

I mean, it’s more than 40 years later!!! It only poisons a person to hold anger that long. Why would you punish yourself by staying mad about one incident for more than 40 years?

Exactly.

 I’m quite disappointed in the level of analysis of this article; I expect better from this website, quite frankly.

First of all, it’s not up to the non-victim to decide when the victim should “let go” of their past trauma. Even if you had undergone THE EXACT SAME experience, different people deal in different ways, and to suggest that someone else is somehow wrong for “staying mad for so long” is quite ignorant. These types of incidents are liable to trigger things like PTSD or exacerbate depression; I suppose people suffering from those should just cheer up already, too?

Secondly, Romney was on the verge of turning 18 – a mere months away. That’s hardly a child by anyone’s standard. Sure, Barack Obama has tried coke. But experimenting with a drug is a very different beast than premeditated assault, as anyone except for the fucked up US “war on drugs” will tell you. One is youthful indiscretion – the other requires the willful harm to another human being.

Thirdly, I would be inclined to agree with you that a lot of people do really stupid shit when they’re young. I myself am not proud of things I’ve done even ten years ago. However, you forgive people their past errors because they learn from them, and grow from them, and become better human beings. There’s nothing in Romney’s behaviour that makes me believe he’s changed. The reason there’s such a huge deal made about this incident is because it is so indicative of his current state of mind – total disregard for anyone who doesn’t conform exactly to his perspective of how things should be, total lack of compassion or empathy. When confronted about past misdeeds to which there were several eye-witness who had previously been ON HIS SIDE and who were complicit in the attack, his response is to send off a generic press release via a media person, and claim he didn’t remember. His eventual apology was a non-apology – “if” anyone was hurt? He knows people were hurt. He was told people were hurt.

Fourthly, your retort about how straight kids should be protected from bullying too is prevarication and completely beside the point. Bullying is a terrible, shitty thing to do to another human being. When confronted with proof that he may have been a bully in his past, Romney’s proper response should have been a clear indictment of bullying, not some dissembling about whether or not he actually thought the guy was gay. It doesn’t matter whether or not the kid was gay. It mattered that he was different, and Romney wanted to bring him in line. Instead of condemning the type of bullying that today, right now, is torturing and killing kids who are different, his focus was on denial and covering his own ass.

His response to the incident says so much about who he’s evolved into since the incident, which makes the incident itself noteworthy. Dismissing something because it was 40 years ago is a pitiful excuse. Lots of things happened a long time ago that still have reverberating effects today.

Furthermore: a lot of people do stupid meanspirited things when they’re young, but I don’t want them to lead a country. The leader of a country should be extraordinary in their moral fibre and their sense of justice; not merely be good at campaigning. 

If I can tell the stories in High School what my friends would do to Special Ed students; heck, one of my friends wife, used to tease a girl a lot and bully her in grammar school, that in High School she tried to be friends with her, but she never wanted to. We all been in High School, and have done dumb things on our behalf(make it clear: I had no involvement), but really? This is 1965!!! Arguably a time when our country was “evolving”(he he he).

I for one don’t take it seriously…well, it is The Washington Post, and I hear they are struggling. So this was selective on their behalf to go after Romney on what he’s done nearly 40 years ago(even our side going after Obama for using drugs or whatever). But they got attention, and views, so their goal was complete.

Relax. Obama aligned himself with Terrorists(Bill Ayers), and by accounts he was a very good friend of his. That’s more disconcerning to us than what he did 40 years ago doing drugs or looking at his college transcripts(but if you want to play politics, we’ll just go in circles like everyone else is doing here).

I guess I missed the memo where we can only be concerned about one thing at a time, and being concerned about Romney’s behavior means I’m incapable of being concerned about Obama’s.

This is one incident, but if you’re going to waste your time dwelling on a fight between teenagers 40 years ago — an incident you did not witness yourself—  that’s your choice.

No-one can prove that this was a homophobic assault, though looking at the circumstances it’s very easy make a common-sense inferrence that it was. The victim’s a gay man, he was attacked because he was different; his hair was too long and regarded by the pack as feminine. Either Romney has an “obsessive” dislike of a certain hairstyle, or he was searching for a superficial reason to punish this guy for having a different sexuality. (If a black guy got beaten up ostensibly for having an afro, I would regard that as a hate crime.) When gay guys get targeted, it’s very rare for the aggressor to admit that the actual motive is homophobia – normally it’s just “they’re weird” or “they irritate me” etc. etc. As for knowing whether Romney was involved, I’m having to trust the accuracy of the Post’s article for making that judgement.

You did not answer my questions: would you be more traumatized and so quick to forgive if a group of schoolmates had held you down and cut off your hair? I never claimed this “prank” was recent or that anyone was/should be angry for 40 years. Your cavalier attitude is as appalling as the “incident” and as Romney’s response to it. And how is this article appropriate on this web site? Did you merely reason that everyone is entitled to your opinion on all issues?

 Is it only homophobic if attackers loudly announce they are hurting a person because he’s gay, and for no other reasons? Did Romney need to be wearing his “I hate gay people” shirt?

The kid was still targeted because he was perceived as effeminate, different, and didn’t conform to the popular idea of what masculinity should look like.